人生 从中超到中甲 王寿挺一路走来
2018-03-28 18:15:58
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劲爆体育中甲：从中超的上海申花到了中甲的上海申鑫，这个赛季的这次转会，对于想多踢比赛的王寿挺来说，就是人生中的一次赌博——一边是
劲爆体育中甲：从中超的上海申花到了中甲的上海申鑫，这个赛季的这次转会，对于想多踢比赛的王寿挺来说，就是人生中的一次赌博——“一边是百分之五十甚至是百分之三十的机会，另一边则是百分之九十甚至是百分之百的机会，我肯定选择后者。”
[ 加盟申鑫 ]
不倚老卖老、指手划脚
媒体：租借来到申鑫以后，你代表球队两场联赛首发打满全场，感觉怎么样？
王寿挺：感觉申鑫在整个中甲联赛当中，属于比较讲究整体配合、重视控球的球队。联赛前两轮的对手武汉卓尔和青岛黄海，实力都不弱，但我们在场面上都是占优的一方，可惜没能拿下一场胜利，这是比较遗憾的。或许是我刚加盟的缘故，我之前听说，咱们外援到队的时间也比较晚，而且前两轮的首发阵容也是有变化的，我们需要更多的磨合。对比看到，我们在第二轮与黄海的比赛中表现得明显比第一轮踢武汉时好得多。
你在申鑫踢的位置比在申花时要提前了一点，感觉怎么样？
我觉得差不多吧，我的主要职责还是在后卫身前充当一道屏障。
从中超的申花来到中甲的申鑫，你在心理上会产生落差吗？
不存在心理落差。现在中超中甲的水平差距不像几年前那么大了，比如去年，申鑫也淘汰了中超的球队进入到足协杯四强。另外，现在申鑫的这批人，很多都是陪着球队一块从中超降级来到中甲的，整体的人员结构还是完善的，而且，现在中甲的外援实力也不弱，像武汉的莫雷诺、拉斐尔，他们是有足够的能力立足中超的。现在中甲的水平一点也不低，甚至有中甲俱乐部的投入比一些中超俱乐部还要高。
在申鑫里面，你就算队里的老大哥了，在生活中跟球场上，你是怎样以身作则的呢？
可能因为我是从中超球队过来的，我的训练态度、一言一行，都在大家的观察之中。起码就我而言，在训练场上要百分之百地尽自己的全力，至于在场上呼喊队友们，更多是要以鼓励为主，不要埋怨。鼓励跟埋怨对他人心理带来的影响是不一样的，如果我发现有问题的地方，我也是尽量以鼓励、缓和的语气跟对方沟通，毕竟我也是刚到队，不能倚老卖老，更不能仗着自己从中超过来就怎样怎样，好像要对大家指手划脚似的。
王赟上赛季也是从申花租借到申鑫，之前你跟他有交流过吗？
有，不仅跟王赟，来申鑫之前，我在申花跟周总还有吴指导都沟通过，他们听取了我的意见，来之前我还跟朱指导打过电话。朱指导觉得球队有用得到我的地方，我也跟王赟了解过申鑫的状况，他上个赛季在这里待了半年。王赟给我的反馈都是比较积极的，他告诉这支球队很团结，队内气氛都比较融洽，我当然是愿意来到这样的集体踢球的。只要把注意力放在足球上，其他方面都不成问题了。
朱指导告诉我，球队现在需要一个老队员来带一带，无论是在场上还是在场下，都能起到一些传帮带的作用。而且中超现在这个U23政策，挤压了很多人，为了保持状态也好，或是为个人未来职业规划也好，来申鑫多踢比赛都是极好的，毕竟随着岁数增长，只有比赛才能保持状态，如果没有比赛，很可能你今年还能在中超，明年就哪里都去不了了。
上赛季你在申花有一个进球，这个赛季有给自己定下什么目标吗？
没有，我真没想过这个问题。要知道我在球场上的位置，尤其是到了下半场的时候，我的任务还是以防守为主，充当中后卫身前最后一道屏障的角色。如果我太靠近对方球门的话，就意味着我站位出现了问题。我是什么类型的球员，我自己很清楚，进球和助攻这一类的数据不是我去考虑的，在场上我做好我职责范围内的工作就够了。
告别申花
百场纪念赛趴地落泪
媒体：这个赛季申花亚冠、联赛、足协杯三线作战，恰恰是最需要用人的时候，你觉得自己的离开值吗？
王寿挺：能够留队代表申花比赛当然是一个好的选择，但中超有U23政策，对我这种老队员来说，可能就变成两线作战了。这些都是一系列的选择问题，就跟赌博一样的。假如我选择留在申花，也许还有比赛机会，也许根本就没有，但来到申鑫呢，我对自己还是比较有信心的，朱指导跟我沟通过，他觉得我是能够出场比赛的。一边是百分之五十甚至是百分之三十的机会，另一边则是百分之九十甚至是百分之百的机会，我肯定选择后者。
申花一度开局不顺，在中超第三轮时才取得赛季首胜，你有为他们感到着急吗？
肯定是有的。我来申鑫之前已经跟申花踢了几场比赛了，感觉今年球队比去年还更困难了，今年几个主力中卫受伤了，这情况很罕见，伤病对球队成绩的影响还是很大的。前几场没赢的比赛，申花其实踢得不差，比如踢鹿岛鹿角那一场，对手是很厉害的，没赢归没赢，但申花真踢得还行。
从你的角度看，赛季开始不久就伤员猛增，你觉得跟冬训高密度的比赛有关系吗？
原因应该是多方面的。申花去年休息时间少，10月底还在打足协杯决赛，比别的球队少放了一个月的假。而在西班牙马贝拉冬训时，咱们也是每三天一场热身赛的高强度训练节奏。我们的对手都是欧洲球队，比赛质量都很高，比赛节奏也很快。休息时间短，准备期短，我们安排这么多比赛也是为了磨合阵容，效果就是，亚冠开打后跟鹿岛鹿角的比赛中，净比赛时间高达61分钟，这个数值在亚洲赛场上算是相当高的。
去年申花在赛季中也遭遇过伤病潮，对比之下，你觉得今年的申花会更艰难吗？
我觉得今年的确会比去年更艰难。从内部讲，中后卫同一位置的大面积伤病，只能让边后卫艾迪改打中后卫，从外部讲，U23和外援政策出现了变化，这些都给教练排兵布阵造成很大的困难，所以一段时间的战绩不佳不完全是教练的问题。另外今年还有亚冠这条战线，对手都是各国联赛的佼佼者，今年的申花会比去年更难。
在你的球员生涯中，跟洋帅以及土帅都有过很多合作，你觉得他们各有什么优势呢？
在训练方面，土帅跟洋帅都是大同小异的，两者真正的区别，更多是体现在与球员沟通、球队管理方面。中方教练员跟球员的沟通比较直接，想法以及做事方式也更接近，因为文化是一样的。外教还分南美派和欧派，南美教练作风更随性，像波耶特、巴蒂斯塔，他们在场上很有激情、会大喊，但在生活中很随性，在训练强度的要求上不太大，而欧洲教练，像曼萨诺、吉洛，他们要求的训练强度很大，对场上的战术纪律要求特别严，外援跟本土球员都要按他的指示，该往哪跑就要往哪跑。
上赛季在申花，你印象最深刻的时刻，是哪个场景？
肯定是足协杯夺冠那一刻，还有我个人的百场。那一场我都激动得在场上流眼泪了，我记得是在主场踢华夏的比赛。那场比赛开局申花两球落后，当时我还觉得挺沮丧的，怎么踢成这样了？但在追平以后，尤其是马丁斯进球逆转的那一刻，我就趴在草皮上，眼泪就流出来了。还有莫雷诺下场的时候，他把队长袖标给我了，比赛结束后我们来到比分牌下拍照。
这两个瞬间都是我去年最开心、最深刻的时刻。那场球我也特别拼，当时想的是“我的百场不能输”，我没想过还能3比2赢球了。
作为一个防守型后腰，中超这么多顶级外援，你觉得谁最难防守呢？
我觉得莫雷诺在中超算是顶级外援，特别难防。他既有身高，又有速度；既能持球，又能传威胁球，还能进球。莫雷诺应该算是中超最全面的外援了，申花使用了这么多年的外援，他是特别正确的一个选择。
你是大连人，今年大连一方出现在中超赛场，你会关注他们的情况吧？
会关注。放假回大连时，同家人、朋友吃饭的时候，都会聊到一方。
你想过在职业生涯晚期回大连，为家乡球队效力吗？
现在大连球员遍布全国各地，从小就离开大连在外面踢球，也习惯了各个地方的生活，像我在河南建业踢了五年，在上海也待了快六年了，这种生活也习惯了。说实话，如果有机会回大连踢球，我不会拒绝，我是愿意的，但这需要合适的时机，以及双方想法一致。
职业遗漏
没打北京奥运后悔一辈子
媒体：你是08国奥的适龄球员，但是因为伤病无缘北京奥运，如果可以穿越，你想改变哪个节点？
王寿挺：我最想改变我做手术那个时间点。我在06年下半年左脚脚腕韧带断了，做完手术休养了差不多半年时间，影响了我后面一系列的比赛以及国奥的入选。在受伤之前，我是那一届国奥的常客，那次伤病后入选国奥训练时，我的脚还是肿着的，脚腕在变向跟灵活度方面都不如从前，使不出百分之百的能力，一直收着在踢。
如果可以重来的话，我希望自己在06年别受伤，别做手术，说不定我还能竞争一下进入奥运大名单。其实那时候，大多国奥常客都能在中甲、中超踢上比赛了，像崔鹏、周海滨、赵旭日，当时蒿俊闵也能踢后腰，后腰位置竞争很激烈。当时我在建业也能上场比赛，但我知道我得踢好才能进入国奥名单，这个位置的好球员太多了，国奥主教练没必要选一个大伤初愈、还不能百分百发挥的球员，这我是理解的，但对于我来说，没参加北京奥运是一辈子的后悔。
如果没有这次重伤，你的职业成就能不能更上一层楼？
现实没有假设，但遭遇过这样严重的伤还能继续踢到现在，我也是挺幸运的。2004年我的半月板做过手术，后期恢复得不好，在德国备战世青赛的训练我也不太行，训练量不能提上去，否则膝盖就会积水，最后也是因为这个伤落选了世青赛名单。我还记得很清楚，后来我跟闫相闯是作为后备来到荷兰，坐在看台上看比赛，没法坐替补席。那时候心里挺不是滋味的，但我还能踢到现在这年纪，挺知足了。我左右两边膝盖半月板，包括左脚脚腕韧带，上了三次手术台，大伤没能把我击倒，我也挺庆幸的。我现在特别珍惜自己余下的职业生涯，这也是我为什么选择到申鑫来的原因，我不希望自己职业生涯晚期是在板凳上度过的。一个球员不踢比赛就没有价值，一个球员不踢比赛也不算是一个真正的运动员。
08国奥好一届算是兵强马壮的，你怎么评价你这批队友？
我觉得我们这批人到最后打散了。为什么这样说呢，我觉得这批人最后进成年国家队的人少了点。其实85这一届的人真不差，亚青赛亚军，这是近十年来最好的成绩了；土伦杯，我们拿了亚洲最好的成绩；世青赛的发挥，我觉得我们这一届球员打出了自己的价值。对比葡萄牙黄金一代、比利时欧洲红魔这一代、德国一队和二队，他们都是一拨人起来之后，整批进入国家队的，没有把他们分散。
我觉得，如果当时国家队的建队思路是以85这批人为主要成员的话，成绩说不定会更好一些。如果当时有像现在这种保护U23球员的政策，来保护当时那批国奥队成员，可能情况会比现在更好一点。像81年那批超白金一代，他们也存在被打散了的问题。我们08国奥这一批，从01、02年就开始海选了，经历几年的时间层层海选，从2000多人的大集训营，淘汰剩下200多人，再到60多人，又到40多人，最后选出26到28人这种大名单。这批人虽然属于各自俱乐部，但是有足够多的时间和量一起训练，磨合了好多年，以这届国奥为班底组建国家队的话，我觉得成绩也不会差。
踢了这么多年，最大的感悟是什么？
感谢足球！足球带给我很多，我很庆幸自己选择足球这份事业作为个人的职业发展道路。我是03年开始踢职业联赛的，假赌黑比较严重，那段时间应该是中国足球最动荡的年代。到了后来，恒大强势入主，中国足球的整体环境有了明显好转，到现在许多世界级球星登陆中超赛场，中超俱乐部高额投入，已经到达了中国足球的又一个黄金期。从最黑暗到最黄金的年代我都经历过了，我现在特别珍惜足球，希望能延续多几年的职业生涯。
Life from Super League to Zhongjia Wang Shou Ting came all the way
In the Madden Sports A: From Shanghai Super League’s Shenhua to Shanghai’s Shenxin, this season’s transfer, for Wang Shouting, who wants to play more games, is a gamble in life—“one side is a percent Fifty or even thirty percent of chances, on the other side, ninety percent or even one hundred percent chance. I definitely choose the latter."
From the first professional stadium in 2003 to 15 years ago, Wang Shouting, who will be 33 years old this year, has two feelings: First, he can still play now after three major injuries; he is very satisfied; The same way of life...
[ Join Shen Xin ]
Do not rely on old sellers, gesticulating
Media: After the loan came to Shen Xin, how did you feel to play on behalf of the team's first two league games?
Wang Shou Ting: It feels that Shen Xin is a team that pays more attention to overall coordination and attaches importance to the possession of the ball in the entire A-League. The first two rounds of rivals Wuhan Zall and Qingdao Huanghai are not weak, but we are the dominant players on the scene. Unfortunately, we failed to win a victory. This is rather regrettable. Maybe it's because I just joined. I've heard that the time for our foreign aid to the team is relatively late, and the starting lineup in the first two rounds is also changing. We need more running-in. In contrast, we clearly performed much better in the second round of the Yellow Sea game than in the first round.
How did you feel when you played at Shen Xin than at Shenhua?
I think it's almost right. My main responsibility is to act as a barrier before the guards.
From Shenhua Super League to Shenxin in China A, do you have a psychological gap?
There is no psychological gap. The level difference between China Super League and China Super League is not as big as it was a few years ago. For example, last year, Shen Xin also eliminated the Super League team and entered the FA Cup semi-finals. In addition, Shen Xin’s current group of people are accompanied by the team to relegate from the Super League to China A. The overall personnel structure is still perfect. Moreover, China’s foreign aid strength is not weak, like Wuhan’s. Moreno, Rafael, they are capable enough to rely on Super League. Now the level of China A is not at all low, and even some of the Zhongjia clubs are even higher than some of the Super League clubs.
In Shen Xin, you are the big brother in the team. How do you lead by example in life and on the court?
It may be because I came from the Super League team. My training attitude and every word and deed are in everyone's observation. At least as far as I am concerned, I have to do my best in the training field 100%. As for the teammates who are shouting on the court, they should mainly encourage and do not complain. Encouraging the impact of grievances on other people's psychology is not the same. If I discover a problem, I will try to communicate with the other person with encouragement and mitigation. After all, I am also new to the team. If you can surpass it, it will be like how you want it to be.
Wang Hao was also hired from Shenhua to Shenxin last season. Did you communicate with him before?
Yes, not only with Wang Hao, before Shen Xin, I was in Shenhua and Zhou Zong and Wu Zhidu both passed. They listened to my opinions. Before I came, I also called Zhu guide. Zhu Zhu thought that the team was useful to me. I also learned about Shen Xin's situation with Wang Hao. He spent six months here last season. Wang Hao's feedback to me was relatively positive. He told the team that the team is very united and the team atmosphere is more harmonious. Of course, I am willing to come to such a collective play. As long as you focus on football, there are no other problems.
The Zhu guide told me that the team now needs an old team member to bring them along. They can play a role as a passerby on the court or off the court. And the current U23 policy of the Chinese Super League squeezes many people. In order to maintain the status, or for personal future career planning, it is excellent for Shen Xin to play more games. After all, as the age increases, only the competition can If you don't have a game, you will probably be in Super League this year, and you won't be able to go anywhere next year.
Did you have a goal in Shenhua last season and what goals have you set for yourself this season?
No, I really didn't think about it. To know my position on the court, especially when it was the second half, my task was to be defensive and to act as the last barrier in front of the defender. If I'm too close to the opponent's goal, it means that I have a problem at the station. What type of player I am, and I know for myself that the statistics for goals and assists are not my considerations. It is enough that I do my job within my area of responsibility.
Saying goodbye to Shenhua
One hundred commemorative games cried
Media: This season, the Shenhua AFC Champions League, the League, and the FA Cup are the three-line battles. It is precisely when you need to spend the most time. Do you feel that you are leaving?
Wang Shouting: It is of course a good choice to be able to stay on behalf of the Shenhua Games. However, the U23 has a U23 policy and may become a two-line battle for me as an old player. These are a series of choice questions, just like gambling. If I choose to stay in Shenhua, there may be competition opportunities. Perhaps not at all, but when I came to Shen Xin, I still had more confidence in myself. Zhu guided me through the ditch. He thought I was able to play in the game. On the one hand, there is a 50% or even a 30% chance. On the other side, it is 90% or even 100%. I definitely choose the latter.
Shenhua had a bad start. Did they win the season first in the third round of the Super League? Do you feel worried about them?
There must be some. Before I went to Shenxin, I played with Shenhua for a few games. I feel that the team is even more difficult this year than last year. Several main backs have been injured this year. This is very rare. The effect of injuries on team performance is still very high. of. For the first few games that did not win, Shenhua did not play badly. For example, when playing Kashima Antlers, the opponent was very powerful. He did not win and did not win, but Shenhua really played well.
From your point of view, the number of wounded was soaring soon after the start of the season. Do you think it is related to the high-density winter training?
The reasons should be many. Shenhua had a short break last year. At the end of October, he still played in the finals of the Confederations Cup. He had less than a month's leave for the other teams. During the winter training in Marbella, Spain, we were also a high-intensity training rhythm for a warm-up match every three days. Our opponents are European teams, the quality of the game is high, and the pace of the game is also very fast. Short breaks and short preparation time. We also arranged so many matches to run in the lineup. The effect was that the net game time was as high as 61 minutes in the game after the AFC Champions League opened and followed by Kashima Antlers. This figure is quite high on the Asian Games.
Last year, Shenhua suffered an injury during the season. In contrast, do you think this year's Shenhua will be more difficult?
I think this year will indeed be more difficult than last year. Speaking from the inside, the injury of the central defender in the same area has only allowed backfielder Ed Eddy to change to the center back. From the outside, U23 and foreign aid policies have changed, which have caused great problems for the coaches. Difficulties, so a poor record for a period of time is not exactly the coach's problem. In addition, this year, there is the AFC Champions League. The opponent is the leader of the national league. Shenhua this year will be even harder than last year.
In your player career, you have had many cooperations with Yang Shuai and Marshal. Do you think they have their own advantages?
In terms of training, he is similar to Yang Shuai. The real difference between the two is reflected in the communication with the players and team management. Chinese coaches communicate more directly with players, and their ideas and ways of doing things are closer because the culture is the same. The foreign teachers are also divided into South American and European schools. South American coaches are more casual in their style. Like Poyette and Batista, they are very passionate and shouting on the court, but they are very casual in their lives, and they demand training intensity. Not too big, and European coaches, like Manzano and Gillow, they demand a lot of training intensity. They have strict tactical discipline on the field. Foreign aid and local players must follow his instructions and where to run. Where to run.
What scene was your most impressive moment in Shenhua last season?
It must be the moment of the FA Cup win and my personal 100 games. I was so excited that I was playing tears on the court that day. I remember playing in China at home. That game started Shenhua with two goals behind. At the time, I still felt quite depressed. How did you kick this into the game? But after the tie-breaking, especially when Martins scored a reversal, I squatted on the turf and tears flowed out. When Moreno was out of the game, he gave me the captain's armband. After the game we went to the scorecard to take pictures.
These two moments are the happiest and most profound moments of my last year. I also had a special fight for that game. I was thinking "I can't lose 100 games." I never thought I could win 3-2.
As a defensive midfielder, so many top foreign players in the Super League, who do you think is the most difficult to defend?
I think that Moreno is a top foreign aid in the Super League and is particularly difficult to prevent. He has both height and speed; he can hold the ball, pass threats, and score goals. Moreno should be regarded as the most comprehensive foreign aid for the Super League. Shenhua has used foreign aid for so many years. He is a particularly correct choice.
You are from Dalian. This year, Dalian will be in the Super League. Will you pay attention to their situation?
Will pay attention. When returning to Dalian for a holiday, they will talk to one party when they have dinner with their family and friends.
Have you ever thought of going back to Dalian late in your career and playing for your hometown team?
Now Dalian players are scattered all over the country. From childhood, Dalian left Dalian to play football and used to live in various places. Like I played in Henan Jianye for five years and I also spent six years in Shanghai. This kind of life is also used to. Now. To tell the truth, if I have the chance to play in Dalian, I will not refuse. I am willing to, but it needs the right time and the two sides agree.
Occupational omission
Did not regret playing Beijing Olympics for a lifetime
Media: You are a school-age player for the 2008 Olympics, but because of injury and illness missed the Beijing Olympics, if you can cross, which node do you want to change?
Wang Shou Ting: I most want to change the point in time when I did surgery. In the second half of 2006, I broke my ligaments in the left ankle and took a surgical recovery for almost six months, affecting a series of games behind me and the selection of the Olympics. Before the injury, I was a frequent guest of the Olympic Games. When I was selected for the Olympics training after the injury, my foot was still swollen. The ankle was not as good as before in the change of direction and flexibility. The ability to keep in the kick.
If you can come back, I hope I will not be injured in 2006, do not do surgery, maybe I can compete to enter the Olympic list. In fact, at that time, most of the regular Olympics regulars were able to play in the league, such as Cui Peng, Zhou Haibin, Zhao Xuri, Hao Junhao was also able to kick the lower back, the position of the midfielder is very competitive. At that time, I was able to play in Jianye, but I knew that I had to play well to enter the national Olympics list. There were too many good players in this position. The head coach of the Olympics didn't need to pick up a big injury and he couldn’t recover. I understand this player, but for me, not attending the Beijing Olympics is a lifetime regret.
If you don't have this serious injury, can your career achievement go further?
There is no assumption in reality, but I have been fortunate to have been able to continue to play this serious injury. In 2004, my meniscus had been operated and recovered badly in the later period. I was not able to train in the preparation for the World Youth Championship in Germany. The training volume could not be raised, otherwise my knees would become stagnant. Finally, this wound was selected. Green race list. I still remember very clearly that afterwards, I came to Holland with Yan Xianglu as a backup. I was sitting in the stands and watching the game and I couldn't take the seats. At that time, my heart did not taste very much, but I can still play this age, quite contented. I had left and right sides of the knee meniscus, including the left foot and ankle ligament. I had three operation tables. I couldn't knock me down with a big injury. I'm very fortunate. I especially cherish my remaining career. This is why I chose Shen Xin to come. I don't want to spend the rest of my career on the bench. A player does not have value without playing. A player who does not play is not a real player.
The 2008 Olympics is considered to be a strong and strong soldier. How do you evaluate your teammates?
I think our group of people has finally broken up. Why do you say this? I think that this group of people had fewer points when they finally entered the adult national team. Actually, 85 people from this session are really not bad. This is the best result in nearly ten years. Toulon Cup, we took the best performance in Asia. In the World Youth Championship, I think we One player played his own value. Comparing the Portuguese generation of gold, the European Red Devils of Belgium, the German first team and the second team, they all got into the national team after the arrival of the people and did not spread them.
I think that if the national team’s idea of building a team is based on 85 people, the performance may be better. If at the time there were policies like the current protection of U23 players, to protect the Olympic team members at that time, the situation may be better than it is now. Like the generation of ultra-platinum generation in the year 81, they also have problems that have been broken up. Our group of 08 countries and Olympics began sea elections in 01 and 2002. After several years of stratification, we have eliminated more than 200 people from more than 2,000 major training camps and then over 60 people. And to more than 40 people, the final list of 26 to 28 people was selected. Although this group of people belonged to their respective clubs, but there was enough time and quantity to train together and run in for many years. When the National Olympic Team was established as the team, I feel that the results will not be bad.
After all these years, what is the biggest feeling?
Thanks for football! Football brings me a lot, and I'm glad that I have chosen this career as a personal career path. I started playing professional league games in 2003. The fake gambling blacks are more serious. That time should be the most turbulent time for Chinese football. Since then, Evergrande has become a strong player, and the overall environment of Chinese football has improved significantly. Now that many world-class players have landed in the Super League, Chinese Super League clubs have invested heavily and have reached another golden period for Chinese football. I have experienced everything from the darkest to the golden age. I am now cherishing football and I hope to continue my career for several years.
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